Jeremy Phillips talks to Law Vox by Oxford Academic (OUP)

I am hugely enjoying this podcast, an interview with Jeremy Phillips produced by the publisher of so many IP books (including many of Jeremy's). It's highly informative and a great explanation of the importance of intellectual property law, although there are some themes that he might have explored such as the immense growth in the power of intellectual property rights ... although he does say that most trade marks are not intellectual property, a very useful proposition. When I have listened to it fully, and perhaps a couple of times, I might post more.
(Actually, is it right to call it a podcast if it cannot be downloaded?)